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About The Episode:
- A biblical study of King David and Job
- Why victory lies in fearing and obeying God
- How to have unwavering faith amidst suffering
- The importance of rest and intercession
(0:00:00) – Strength in the Battle (9 Minutes)
This chapter explores the topic of facing battles and struggles in life, whether it be from exhaustion or constantly fighting. We use the story of King David and his battles with King Saul to illustrate the importance of finding a supportive community to help us through these difficult times. We also touch on the danger of judging our own or others’ stories while still in the midst of them, using the example of Job. The key message is to fear God and obey Him, as that is what ultimately leads to a fulfilling and victorious life.
(0:08:52) – Job’s Trials and David’s Journey (12 Minutes)
This chapter explores the story of Job and how his friends’ attempts to comfort him ended up causing more harm. We discuss how Job’s suffering was not a result of his own actions, but rather a spiritual battle. Despite his difficult circumstances, Job remained faithful and in the end, God restored everything he had lost. We also touch on the story of David and how his difficult beginning did not determine his end, as he became a man after God’s own heart. The key message is to not judge our current circumstances, but to look to the end of our story where God’s glory will be revealed.
(0:21:23) – David’s Distress and Recovery (17 Minutes)
This chapter explores the story of David and his struggles with rejection, loss, and betrayal. We see how David finds strength in the Lord and seeks guidance through prayer, even when facing rejection from his own people and the enemy. David’s once loyal companions turn against him in bitterness and exhaustion. As we discuss David’s pursuit to recover all that was taken from him, we are reminded of the importance of rest and interceding for those who are fighting their own battles.
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00:00 – Jaime Luce (Host)
He’s saying listen, I have been there, I have done that, I’ve tried it all. It’s all a waste of your time and your energy, except for this one thing he says in the end, all that matters is that you fear God and obey him. That’s what produces life. Everything else, it just dies, it fades, it has no lasting glory, it doesn’t satisfy. The message is you don’t judge what all this is. You judge the end. And in Job’s case, we judge the end of his story. And God said I am proud of this man and I have not left this man and I give back to him an abundant family and I give back to him his wealth and I give back to him his health. His story was not the end. While it was hard, his story ended with God’s glory being all over his life.
01:15
Welcome to the Jamie Luce Podcast. Thank you for joining me today. I want to talk to you today and give you a little bit of encouragement. Whether you are somebody who has been in the midst of a battle you’ve been fighting for your life or whether you find yourself almost on the sideline because of exhaustion, that the thought of another fight is just too much to bear. David, king David, was someone who felt this, and I think that it would benefit us all to take a look at how we have the ability that there is a way to not give up in the fight and to win the battle that we’re in. So if you have your Bibles out, you can turn with me to first Samuel, and I want to give you just a little background.
02:15
So King David has, as far as where we’re coming, just the previous part of scripture in. This is the story of David before he has made King, and he is running continually from King Saul. And I don’t know if you just have I mean, I feel like we’ve all been through this, I’ve been through this. It’s where you fight a battle and even if you win that battle, you feel like it’s the heels of another one are right behind it and that it’s just one thing after the other. It just doesn’t seem to let up.
02:53
And we’re living in a church culture right now and this is not necessarily a slam, so please hear my heart, but we’ve got and not all this doesn’t fit every church either. This is kind of a blanket statement of a larger, more cultural issue of the church, but because the church has gone through the seasons of mega churches, it has been difficult for the body of Christ and this is my opinion, this is what I feel like is my observation that it has been difficult for the body of Christ to find their place with one another. You know, we’re a body, we are called to live this life as Christians in the body, to find our place in the body, that the body works when the body is all working together, and part of the problem is that we have, if you are a part of a much larger congregation again, I’m not telling you not to do that, I’m not slamming you in any way. I’m not slamming the church. It could be a wonderful church, but the problem that I’m seeing that we’re running into is that, unless you have found yourself in a very vibrant, discipleship-oriented home group in a large body, it is difficult to find that Christian, the army that you need to lock arms with, the group of people that you need to come alongside you while things are difficult, to pray with you, to hold your arms up.
04:43
You know when Moses needed to win the battle in Israel and Josh was down there fighting and leading the fight, but only while Moses had his hands up did they have victory, and if his hands began to come down, then they would begin to lose ground, and so Aaron and her came alongside Moses. So you’ve got Moses helping Joshua, then you’ve got Aaron and her helping Moses, and they’re holding his hands up. If you can imagine the team effort here to win the battle and this battle, all those who are down fighting are fighting for all their families and for the whole group, even though the entire group not all the women and children were not fighting, but the men of war were fighting. And so you can see this how it all has to come together. You can’t have a military of one. It takes teams and it takes leaders and it takes the heart of everyone involved to help one another, to encourage one another, to lift one another up.
05:52
And I see this danger of what happens to those who you could be doing this and you could be facing things, and you feel like you don’t have those around you and or you’ve been fighting so much and you have been helping others and you’ve been a part of the bigger struggle, and now you’re facing something. It hits home, it hits you and, instead of feeling strength from previous battles that were won, you are exhausted and you are worn out and it feels like, if you don’t do this, you just have to settle with cutting your losses, and it ends this way. It reminds me of the story of Job and a great lesson that the Lord has been bringing revelation to me about. We cannot, folks, we cannot judge our story or anybody else’s story while they’re still in the story. Job was coming at his story from the perspective that I have done everything I knew to do and did it the way that I felt God wanted me to do it, and I even took extra measures to make sure that I did all these things right. So Job has a complaint against God, against the righteousness of what’s happening to him. He is holding God responsible for what’s happening to him and he ends up having a confrontation with the Lord about it. And on the other hand, you have his friends who and I’m not slamming them, you know you hope that you have friends who will encourage you and not discourage you. But to play I hate to use this term but devil’s advocate for a moment, though I’m not his advocate and don’t want to partner with him.
07:50
There are many people who walk by sight, not by faith, and it’s not that they’re people, that they aren’t a faith. It’s that they choose to walk by what they see. It doesn’t mean they don’t believe, but they are run by their senses. And we can all fall in this trap at some point or another, where we look at the circumstance and, based off of what we see, we make an analysis based off of what we’re looking at. And these friends were saying okay, joe, we hear you, we’re listening to your arguments, but something doesn’t match up. You’re saying you did all these things and that you didn’t sin, but, man, everything is falling apart around you. There’s got to be something. We’ve got to. Somehow we’re missing something. There’s got to be something. And so it’s not that they didn’t want to be encouraging.
08:52
I don’t think that that was their intent. I mean they came to comfort their friend, we know that and they came to hear him out when they came and they were actually thinking they were helping him by digging through this and saying there’s got to be something, thinking that if they just keep digging for it, they’ll find it. There’s got to be a reason for this. But the truth was the answer in this particular circumstance. Now don’t get me wrong. There are many times we end up in stuff because we created it and we need the Lord and the help of the Holy Spirit to show us the way out and he can lead us out.
09:26
But in Job’s circumstance, this was nothing Job did. Job was right in his arguments against his friends and yet the things that Job’s friends were saying were not wrong. They set up many things that were right and they were looking for answers. That’s not wrong. The problem is it was a spiritual battle. This was an enemy attack and the Lord knew that there was no way he was going to allow Job to fail in the end and there was no way that he was going to let that be Job’s end. So, even though we don’t understand why God allowed this, what we do know and I’ve mentioned this in a previous broadcast but we do know that when Job saw God and heard God, that that answered it for him. Knowing the righteousness of God and seeing the awesomeness and the greatness of God immediately answered enough questions in his mind to say I have no complaint against you, you are good. And by that very declaration of his understanding of who God was and how great God was, regardless of the most difficult thing, I cannot imagine what Job was going through. Even when I read the words and I try to immerse myself in his story.
10:49
This man lost all of his children, all of them, in a moment. How do you grieve that? How do you wrap your mind around that he lost every bit of wealth? Now, job didn’t count on his wealth. He didn’t serve his wealth, and wealth is not the answer. What wealth does do is give you options. It could soften some blows if you’re able to financially handle some things that are happening, even if those things are very difficult to handle.
11:26
So it took Job’s ability to, on the outside, in the material world, take care of what needed to get taken care of, because he lost all of his wealth. Then, on top of that, he loses his health. Add fuel to the fire and have a spouse that says this is all ridiculous. Why you just need to curse God and die. I mean, talk about not even one ounce of. I’m here with you. Somehow we’ll make it through. We don’t understand Just curse God and die. No one gave him hope. In all that we can see, job was hopeless, yet he turned and he still refused to not turn.
12:27
And have this conversation with God and look to God for the answers and the end of the story. If you judge by the end, we judge by the end. The same way we would look at the book of Ecclesiastes Life is vanity. There is nothing good in it. You might as well just live it up. And then he says, yeah, but don’t do that. That’s vanity. I mean, people avoid the book because it is depressing. But if you stop in the middle of the book you miss the point. The point at the end is a positive message.
13:06
And what is the teacher saying? What is the preacher’s message? He’s saying listen, I have been there, I have done that, I’ve tried it all. It’s all a waste of your time and your energy, except for this one thing. He says in the end all that matters is that you fear God and obey him. That’s what produces life. Everything else, it just dies, it fades, it has no lasting glory, it doesn’t satisfy. The message is you don’t judge what all this is, you judge the end.
13:50
And in Job’s case, we judge the end of his story. And God said I am proud of this man and I have not left this man and I give back to him an abundant family and I give back to him his wealth and I give back to him his health. His story was not the end. While it was hard, his story ended with God’s glory being all over his life, and I want to encourage you today, folks, before we even get into this. I know this is a long intro, but the glory comes at the end and where you’re at right now, that’s not the end of your story. That’s not the end of your story, and it wasn’t the end of David’s story. You know it looked like he had this.
14:39
He had a hard beginning. His beginning was difficult because his family, for whatever reason, they just paid no attention to him. They gave him no. There was no value placed on his life. I mean Samuel, the rock star of rock stars in the Christian world. At that time, there were judges. There were no, there were no kings. Samuel was the first to bring in a king, and so you, the man of God, was the man of God and he’s the one who helped lead the entire nation. And this man, even though he had brought in Saul and gave them a king, this same man was still held in great honor and respect and the kings would go to him for advice.
15:37
So we see that when Saul was doing wrong. We know Saul’s end. He was disobedient, he did not do what God said. God called it rebellion and told him that rebellion is his witchcraft and I have ripped the kingdom from you. And Samuel is sobbing over this. He’s mourning over this, and I’m sure that he feels somewhat responsible, because he helped establish this king and it didn’t work, and so I’m sure you can understand that this was a difficult thing for him. And God says okay, samuel, you’ve, you’ve cried over him long enough. You’ve still got work to do. I’ve got one who is a man after my own heart. I want you to go get him and I want you to anoint him.
16:25
And he goes to Jesse’s house and they call everybody to the party, but David, and the excuse they give is he’s the youngest and so they’re despising his youth. They don’t see his capacity, they don’t see his giftings, they don’t put value on who he is, so much so that when the entire family is invited, they do not invite David. And when Saul goes through the line, he realizes something’s wrong. God told me and he said it’s not any of these people. Surely there has got to be somebody else. And it takes an outsider to let this family know who actually God has singled out as having the anointing, who is chosen by God. And he says you go call David. And when David comes before Samuel, samuel anoints him and tells him he’s going to be king. But David doesn’t become king for a very, very long time, years and years past before he does. And even when he finally does become king, he’s only king over Judah, the Southern kingdoms. It takes seven more years before he gains being king over the whole realm of Israel as a whole and brings them back together.
17:55
So this was a long journey in the making and the entire time, even though David, before King Saul, wrought the victory that kept them from being servants and completely losing the battle to the giants, to the Philistines this whole process, saul turns on David and he runs for his life and he’s continually running for his life. The good part about it was David had all of his mighty men. These men started coming to him, these men who understood, these men who were like-minded, these men who realized David isn’t being done right, and we all have some kind of commonality about us that says this man needs us to come alongside him. And he was a great leader. So he began leading the ragtag team of all those who were basically broke, busted and disgusted I fit into that group sometimes and they decide to follow David and they’re winning battle after battle of survival. These men, their battles are not battles of like David, being king and taking territory for the kingdom, these are survival battles, guys. And they’re fighting battle after battle after battle of survival. Now they’re winning, they’re winning, but they’re exhausted and they win a battle. They come back to their hometown after this battle, and this is in chapter 30, first Samuel, chapter 30. Now, when David and his men came to Ziklag on the third day, the Amalekites had made a raid against the Nageb and against Ziklag. They had overcome Ziklag and burned it with fire and taken captive the women and all who were in it, both small and great. They killed no one, but carried them off and went their way. So, literally, they came in and raided. They burned everything down and took everything and everybody with them, and when David and his men came to the city, they found it burned with fire.
20:22
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21:22
And their wives and their sons and their daughters were taken captive. This is crazy. I mean, not only was poor David. Part of the story I left out is not only was poor David fighting these battles of survival. At one point, he even had to flee to the Philistines and was fighting alongside the Philistines until it was time for the Philistines to make war with Israel and they said nope, you can’t go with us.
21:51
And so he’s now been rejected even by the, the rejectees. He’s been rejected by even the enemy. He’s not accepted in his own people, in his own rightful place, but he is now rejected and not accepted in the enemy’s camp. I mean, talk about feeling like an outcast in all alone, and then come home and find out that everything you own has been taken from you and what you have built is burnt down. This is a horrible situation, and it’s not just David, it’s everyone who had come alongside David to help David. Then David and the people who were with him raised their voices and wept until they had no more strength to weep. David’s two wives also had been taken captive. He know him of Jezreel and Abigail, the widow of Nabal of Carmel, and David was greatly distressed, for the people spoke of stoning him. So he’s rejected by Israel. He’s rejected by the enemy. He is now being not just rejected but threatened. His life is now being threatened by the very men who closely came close to him, the ones who helped him, his friends, those, those who fought with him, those who helped these same ones who once cared deeply for this man, who would sacrifice their lives for him, are now talking about stoning him and taking him out.
23:33
Can you imagine the loneliness, can you imagine the distress when this word distress it’s so much stronger than what we can imagine Can you imagine at all? I mean, try to picture any of this in your life, things that you have gone through and the feelings and the emotions that you have been through. And yet, all the same time, you are confused because the word of the Lord to you was that you would be king, that your life wouldn’t look like this, that you would be blessed, that you would have favor and strength, that you were God’s chosen. And if you’re, if God chose you, if God picked you, why does your life look like this? Why does your life feel like this? Why are you going through this? We all have been there. We all have been there and I want you to see what David does in his distress. Folks, we need to do this. We need this. This is why God chose David. This is why he was a man after God’s own heart.
24:40
So verse 6, and David was greatly distressed, for the people spoke of stoning him because of all, the people were bitter in soul. They were now bitter. The hearts of those who surrounded him were bitter. They were bitter from the fight. They were bitter from the agony. They were bitter from their loss. They were bitter, each for his sons and his daughters. But David strengthened himself in the Lord, his God, folks. He had no one left to strengthen him, so he strengthened himself.
25:14
If you’re going through something right now, I want you, as a step of faith, take your own hand right now, lay it on your own head and say Father, god, I know that you have promised never to leave me, never to forsake me, that your promises to me will not fail. You have not left me. But I need you, lord, to show me the way through. Show me what I need to do. Strengthen me in you, oh God. Let your joy be my strength, even in my distress, and I will trust you and follow you and do what you’ve called me to do. Strengthen yourself in the Lord. Strengthen yourself in the Lord.
25:57
Verse seven and David said to A B Arthur, the priest, the son of a Himalek, bring me the ephod. What is he saying? Let’s get a word from the Lord, let’s go seek the Lord. What does God say about this? This looks bad to me and I know what I say about this, but what does God say about this? So A B, a Arthur brought the ephod to David and David inquired of the Lord Shall, I pursue after this band, lord, what do I do? Do I fight again? Do I keep fighting? This is so hard, god, but do I keep fighting? Will I win, shall, I overtake them. Will I gain a victory here, lord? He answered him pursue, for you shall surely overtake and you shall surely rescue. I like other versions that say and you will recover all. You will rescue what needs rescuing, but you will recover all. So David set out and the 600 men who were with him, and they came to the Brook Basar where those who were left behind stayed. This is important, but David pursued, he and 400 men so 200, stayed behind who were too exhausted to cross the Brook Basar.
27:33
I want to talk to not only those of you who need to still fight you need to still fight but I’m talking to those of you who find yourself laying there by the Brook in exhaustion. You can’t take another step. You’re finding it hard to put words together, to pray, to ask the Lord for help. You’ve been in the battle, you’ve been fighting, you’ve been contending, you’ve helped others, you’ve interceded, you’ve been there, you’ve served, you’ve done it and somehow you can’t pick up the sword. I’m not here to condemn you today. I’m here to encourage you. Take your rest. It’s okay, take your rest. I’m fighting for you today. I’m sure that there are those fighting with you today.
28:35
I’m calling on all of those of you right now who are listening to this, who have it in you, to offer up prayers of intercession. Even if you don’t know people’s names, cry out to God for salvation for those who are weak and exhausted and have lost so much. Cry out for those who need someone to hold up their arms. They can’t hold them up. They’re exhausted. They’ve been holding them up for so long. We’re fighting for you. We’re gonna go win this battle together. We need one another. We need one another. I’m gonna skip down, because they find where they need to battle, how they need to battle.
29:25
Let’s go down to verse 19. And when he had taken him down, behold, they were spread abroad, all the land. He’s talking about the man who told them where they’d be. Let’s go to verse 17. And David struck them down from twilight until the evening of the next day, and not a man of them escaped except 400 young men who mounted camels and fled. David recovered all that the Amalekites had taken and David rescued his two wives. Nothing was missing, whether small or great, sons or daughters. If you have sons and daughters who are away from the Lord or never knew him, we are contending that you will recover your sons and your daughters Spoil or anything that had been taken, and the Holy Spirit’s whispering to me for granddaughters and grandsons as well. Some of you are contending for grandchildren. David also captured all the flocks and the herds and the people drove the livestock before him and said this is David’s spoil.
30:50
Then David came to the 200 men who had been too exhausted to follow David and who had been left at the Brook Baser. Now, these are the ones who stayed behind. They just couldn’t do it and they went out to meet David and to meet the people who were with him. And when David came near to the people, he greeted them. Now I want you to listen to this, because this is important. I don’t want us kicking our own soldiers who are down. I don’t want us hurting one another. We need to care about each other. We need to encourage one another. Now listen to this.
31:28
Then all the wicked and worthless fellows among the men who had gone with David said because they did not go with us, we will not give them any of the spoil that we have recovered, except that each man may lead away his wife and children and depart. But David said you shall not do so, my brothers, with what the Lord has given us. He has preserved us and given into our hand the band that came against us. Who would listen to you in this matter? For as his share is who goes down into the battle, so shall his share be who stays by the baggage. They shall share alike, and he made it a statute and a rule for Israel from that day forward to this day. When David came to Ziklag, he sent part of the spoil to his friends, the elders of Judah, saying here is a present for you from the spoil of the enemies of the Lord. It was for these in Bethel, in Ramoth of the Nageb, in Jeteer, in Arora I’m not saying these words right in Sifmoth, in Eshtimoa, in Rekal, in the cities of the Jeromelites, in the cities of the Kenites, in Horma, in Basharon, in Athach, in Hebron, for all the places where David and his men had roamed, we are going to see a victory, whether you are fighting for your life right now, discouraged that it hasn’t gone the way you thought and that you feel you’ve lost more by going to battle.
33:16
That by obeying and going to battle now you’ve lost home, you’ve lost ministry, you’ve lost wealth, health, whatever that you feel you have lost, that you’ve been raided, that the enemy has just stolen from you. Scripture tells us that whatever the enemy has stolen, he has to repay you back seven times. And we are expecting, by the word of the Lord, today I’m declaring this over you. Today I am declaring that you recover sevenfold for everything the enemy has taken from you, that you recover all, all, you rescue all and you recover all that. Your story doesn’t end in this mess. Your story does not end with everything burned up, crashed and burned and lost and taken, but your story ends in victory. Your God is not finished and your story is not over, and God will see to it that you end. You end in victory. This ends in giving glory to God. God will get the glory. We stand with you. I’m praying for you. Pray for me, pray for me. I’m praying for you.
34:26
Let’s care about the body of Christ. Let’s quit kicking each other while we’re down. Let’s quit fighting, let’s quit bringing divisions. What does Paul teach? He teaches us that when we have those divisions, when we have that backbiting, when we’re doing all that, we are carnal. That is not spiritual, that is carnal there, even the battles between the churches, the battles between denominations. Shame on us. Shame on us. Yes, it’s important to know the word and it’s important to adhere to the word and live holy lives according to the word. Every theologian out there has their own opinion and they all fight over what it means. There is no complete agreement on everything. Instead of arguing, we will finally figure out one day in eternity. Let’s love our brothers. Let’s love our brothers, let’s care for one another, let’s be intercessors.
35:17
Take time every day that you pray and simply offer prayers for the saints, just simply offer prayers of strength and courage. What was Joshua’s assignment that God gave him when Moses? He said Moses, my servant is dead. In fact, I’m going to read that to you. Let’s go there, joshua, chapter one, verse two Moses, my servant is dead. Now, therefore, arise, go over this Jordan, you and all this people, into the land that I am giving to them, to the people of Israel, every place that the soul of your foot will tread upon. I have given you just as I promised Moses.
36:07
Go down to verse five. No man shall be able to stand before you all the days of your life. Just as I was with Moses, so I will be with you. I will not leave you or forsake you. Be strong and courageous. Verse seven only be strong and very courageous, being careful to do according to all the law that Moses, my servant, commanded. You do not turn from it to the right or to the left, that you may have good success wherever you go.
36:34
I can continue to read that. I want you to read that on your own. But just know God says don’t stay here. He told Joshua yes, moses is dead, but get up Some of you. God’s saying get up Some of you. I’m telling you it’s okay, you can rest, take your rest and let the Lord and let your brothers fight for you. We will share in the spoils, we will share in the victory, we will rejoice together in the victories. And next time when my brother, the next brother’s down, then you can lift him up, you can be the supporter.
37:16
Why does the proverb say it’s better for two to walk together? Because if one falls, the other can lift him up. Let’s truly be the body of Christ. Let’s really be brothers. Let’s encourage one another, let’s fight for one another. Let’s pray for one another. I don’t have to know you to pray for you. I don’t even have to know your name God knows your name but I can call on the Lord to say that whoever is my brother or my sister, I will fight in the spirit for you. Let’s be those who do that today. Let that be your assignment today.
37:51
I challenge you to make it a part of your daily prayer time to pray for the saints. It was my pleasure to be with you today. I really do hope this was an encouragement to you. I wasn’t planning on recording this today and the Holy Spirit just prompted me to do this, and so I just want you to be empowered by the word of the Lord, but also to know the Lord loves you, but he’s calling us to care for one another and he will see to it. He’ll take care of you. To the one who’s knocked down, he’ll take care of you. And to those of us who can fight, just keep fighting. Just keep fighting. It’s a good fight of faith. We fight the good fight of faith. Like Paul, we can say I have fought a good fight. Let’s keep on fighting. Let’s not lay our swords down. Let’s go after it. Let’s do it, let’s recover. All I know the Lord will be with you. Thanks for joining me today.
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