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In this week’s episode of the Jaime Luce Podcast, I sat with my sister, Jenny Brown, to talk about something every believer needs to understand if they want to see breakthrough in their lives: you will reap what you sow .

This truth touches every part of our lives. It shapes our prayers, our actions, our thoughts, and even our relationships. When we understand time the way Scripture defines it, it changes how we see our season, our obedience, and our expectations for God’s promises.

Let me walk you through the heart of our conversation and what God is teaching us about sowing, timing, and harvest.

The Bible Says There Is a Season for Everything

Ecclesiastes 3 tells us that “to everything there is a season” and a “time” for every purpose under heaven. What most people miss is how specific the Bible’s use of the word “time” actually is.

Time can mean:
• a moment,
• a season,
• an appointed moment,
• an opportunity,
• a point in life,
• or even a “happy time” that God has set aside just for you .

Understanding this helped me see that God is incredibly detailed with our timeline. He knows the hour, the moment, and the season that is best for your sowing and best for your harvest.

If you feel discouraged in your waiting, remember this: you are not out of season. God is working with precision.

Why You Must Plant Before You Can Ever Reap

This sounds simple, but spiritually, it is profound. You cannot reap what you have not planted. And you cannot plant carelessly and expect a healthy harvest.

Everything we do is a seed:
• Our words
• Our attitudes
• Our prayers
• Our actions
• Our time
• Our generosity

All of it reproduces after its own kind .

If I want a harvest of peace, I have to sow seeds of peace.
If I want a harvest of kindness, I must sow kindness.
If I want to see answered prayers, I must sow prayer.

Seeds always multiply, and they multiply in the form they were planted.

Be Intentional With What You Plant

One of the most powerful points Jenny shared was this: sow for the harvest you want .

If your field looks empty, do not sow in discouragement. Sow with purpose.

I shared how easy it is for believers to assume “seed” means money, but this teaching goes far beyond finances. What you plant in any area of life determines the harvest in that same area.

Your words are seeds.
Your habits are seeds.
Your time is seed.
Your obedience is seed.

And God is not mocked. What you sow, you will reap.

Obedience and Timing Matter More Than You Think

There is a right time to plant and a wrong time to plant. Just like natural seasons, spiritual seasons require timing. Jenny told a story about seeds that must be planted only in January—any other month, and they will not grow .

That is how God works with us.

He prompts us.
He nudges us.
He speaks to our hearts.

And when He speaks, our timing matters. Obedience in the moment plants the seed in the right soil at the right time.

When we delay, we miss harvests we were meant to have.

Sow With Others in Mind

God blesses us when we sow into others. Scripture tells us to do good, to give, and to expect nothing in return, because whatever good we do, God Himself will repay us .

You never know when your seed is the one moment that changes a life.

Jenny shared a story of my brother-in-law, Kevin, obeying the Lord in giving even when it was hard. That act of obedience brought multiplied blessing later—because God always honors right seed, right heart, and right timing.

Guard Yourself Against Careless Seed

One of the most memorable stories in the episode was the pumpkin story. A woman tossed a rotting pumpkin into her flowerbed without thinking, and the next year… she grew a pumpkin patch she never intended to plant .

How often do we do that spiritually?

We:
• speak harshly
• complain
• criticize
• compare
• gossip
• react in anger

And then we wonder why we are harvesting frustration, division, or discouragement.

Careless seeds always grow.

Your Words Will Shape Your Home and Your Future

This part of our conversation hit home for me. What we speak into the atmosphere of our home determines the fruit we eventually eat.

If I sow peace, I reap peace.
If I sow honor, I reap honor.
If I sow criticism, I reap conflict.
If I sow gratitude, I reap joy.

Nothing is separate from the law of sowing and reaping. Not marriage. Not parenting. Not ministry. Not friendships.

And we will all harvest what our mouths have planted.

God Is the Lord of the Harvest

At the end of this episode, I reminded listeners of something crucial: I plant. God brings the harvest.

I am not responsible for the outcome.
I cannot control the weather of life.
I cannot control the growth process.
I cannot control who receives the seed.

My job is to sow in obedience.
God’s job is to produce the harvest in His perfect timing.

If you have been sowing for a long time and have not seen your harvest yet, do not faint. God is faithful. You will reap if you stay the course.

If this message encouraged you, make sure to subscribe so you can hear the rest of this teaching next week. God has appointed times for travail, for growth, and for happiness. Your harvest season is coming. Keep planting faithfully, because God is watching every seed.

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Full Transcript

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00:08 – Jaime Luce (Host)
Welcome to the Jaime Luce podcast. Thank you so much for taking some time to dig into the truths of the word with me. Today I have a special guest with me. You can tell things look different, not the same as usual. This is my sister, jenny Brown. She is the. Tell me the title.

00:24 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
HR Vice President, executive Administration. Slash HR.

00:29 – Jaime Luce (Host)
Okay, she’s also the worship leader for Connection Church in Corona shameless plug. So if you’re looking for a church and you live in the area, you should go visit. But we have a special, a special subject today I wanted to talk to you about. So over the last few weeks, if you’ve been listening to the podcast over the last few weeks, we are in First Kings. We’ve been talking about King Ahab and Elijah. We’ve been talking about repairing the altars and what it means to put the Lord first, to put him in his rightful place, to rebuild the altars, our place of prayer, and to do that so that we can then expect the fire to fall and consume the sacrifice, so then we can expect the rain, to have an abundance of rain come where there was once drought. But in order to see those results, in order to see the hand of God move, we have to be those who are sowing into the ground, so to speak, our prayers. We are offering to the Lord the sacrifice of praise, we are giving to him the honor that is due him, we are seeking him first before we make all our plans and plan all our deeds and whatever we’re doing for the day. And so in this, Jenny, I had the privilege of visiting their church a couple of weeks ago.

01:51
She had a women’s event and she spoke on this subject, and when I heard it I knew, okay, this is exactly what God has been saying and we’re going to be talking about. She’s got a title of well, if you want to reap, you have to plant. So, okay, keep that in mind. If you want to reap, you have to plant, and that fits in with prayer. But it also when I did some study on the word time, which we’re going to talk about. She’s going to talk about this, but the word time in the Bible is a very specific word. I mean, you’ll see it hundreds of times and it has a couple different reference points that I want you to keep in mind when you’re hearing us talk about time, Because if you have the right understanding of time, you will have a better understanding of the place you are right now in your life where you can expect God to show up, and it will help you if you’re discouraged. This too shall pass. There is a season.

03:01 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
For everything.

03:03 – Jaime Luce (Host)
So let me give that to you before I pass it on to Jenny. I was looking at which. I think you’re going to quote this verse anyway. We’re going to be talking about Ecclesiastes, chapter three. I’m sure a lot of you are familiar with this passage, but it is the time passage, basically, and it says to everything there is a season. To everything there is a season where you are to continually be praying about something that maybe you haven’t seen the answer yet. You’re in that to an interval. It could literally be as exact as a mealtime, a right now, a period okay, like an era, a season. It can mean timely, it can mean whenever, whenever, so it’s unknown to us. There’s a whenever to the time. It can mean a year. That’s just some of what’s behind just that word time. So you need to open up your understanding.

04:41
The word time is, according to scripture, when you’re reading certain scriptures, very specific. I wanted to give you just a couple examples, because in the Old Testament, in the, there’s this I don’t know, I’m not going to say this word the Jeseneus I don’t know Hebrew Chaldee lexicon to the Old Testament Jesenius I don’t know Hebrew Chaldee lexicon to the Old Testament gives this definition for time, a fit, proper time, an opportunity, a certain time, a longer time, a happy time. Amen that in my spirit. Somebody needs to know that you have a happy time coming. You have a happy time coming. It can mean a point of time, a lapse of time, it can mean eschatological time and it can mean a remote time, interesting Point in time, interesting Point in time, Occasion. So many things are bound up in this word. So a couple of the scriptures. Where did my scriptures go? Let me read you a couple of these scriptures real quick.

06:10 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
Oh goodness, amen, this is going to be good. Today, you can already tell God’s firing stuff off. That’s awesome.

06:16 – Jaime Luce (Host)
Sorry guys, Me and computers are not friends. I use them because I have to, but especially on my phone when it’s small and you can see I’m wearing glasses.

06:29 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
We’ll do Jeopardy music. Sorry, this is my sister and this is how it’s going to be today.

06:33 – Jaime Luce (Host)
Okay, there we go. Okay, here’s the first one, genesis 18.10. Listen for the word time and you’ll understand how specific this is. And he said I will certainly return unto thee. Speaking to Sarah, according to the time of life Now we know, that means she’s going to be pregnant and she has to get through the pregnancy. That is the time period. This is the length of time If I go to Genesis 24, 11,. And he made his camels to kneel down without the city by a well of water at the time of the evening, even the time that the women go out to draw water. So these are very specific times of day. God has every bit of your timeline. It’s specific. He knows your hour, your minute. Today he said for us to.

07:37
David said this in the Psalms I believe that Lord, teach us to number our days, that we are to understand the timing Our days is important. How we give our time, what we give our time to, is important. How I approach time, how I approach those things with my attitude. That’s important because times are specific. They call for certain things. You have to be ready for your time and your attitude matters. You’re going to talk about that. That just reminded me of one of your points. So good, so excited. Okay, I’ll give you two more Genesis, 38, 27. And this I’m just going from Genesis. There are hundreds, okay, all through the Old Testament. And it came to pass in the time of her travail that behold, twins were in her womb. Come on, time of travail, okay.

08:31 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
Sometimes you got to push harder. When there’s bigger seed there’s twins, more there’s twins in there. So sometimes when you’re like, why is this so hard? You’re birthing something bigger than normal.

08:41 – Jaime Luce (Host)
Yes, absolutely. And then Leviticus 1525. Well, I don’t want to give you that one. Let me go to a different Leviticus, 16, 2.

08:51
And the Lord said unto Moses, speak unto Aaron, thy brother, that he come not at all times into the holy place within the veil, before the mercy seat which is upon the ark, that he die not, for I will appear in the high priest once a year. He’s giving an instruction that says don’t come at all times. You don’t just approach me how you want to approach me all the time that there is a time of reverence, there is an appointed time. I will meet with you at the appointed time. It’s an appropriate time for you to come before my holiness. There’s an appropriate way to approach me, and it’s when I say and how I say and where I say Okay. So we’ve just that alone. I hope I’ve whetted your whistle a little bit to understand the value of knowing time. So okay, jenny, this is you gave us.

09:51
She made sure to tell us that she wasn’t preaching, that she was just going to tell us some stories and give us some points, but she preached it. She preached it. It was really good. So go ahead and just give us a little background how God used whatever he used to prompt this in you, and then we will start taking them through this You’re going to want something to write with. She’s giving us some very specific points. Was it six? Yeah, six points that you’re going to want to write these down? Okay, three S’s, three D’s.

10:25 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
Before we jump into that, I just want to say, when you were reading the scriptures, that the word whenever stunk out with me when you were reading the definition of time in the scripture. That came to mind was whenever you pray, whenever you fast. Oh yeah, those are times that God is saying when you do this, to set aside time to do this, then those are sacred moments. So that, and then, second, when you spoke to somebody, I bore witness with that with a happy time. I had read that just this morning. It was when King Solomon got established and he was thanking God and he said the kingdom was at rest, and it even said and they were all happy.

10:57 – Jaime Luce (Host)
And.

10:57 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
I thought there are times that God has established for happiness. There’s times for travail, when we’re birthing stuff, but then there’s also times for happiness. So praise God for that. So how this came about is I just was feeling led by the Lord to have an event for our women at church and thought fall would be a good time to do that. I love harvest time of year, so you know all things, pumpkins and all that stuff so I was just kind of planning this and the lord dropped this in my heart and then, uh, as he does, then he starts revealing it and more layers of it, and so I started just making notes and spending time with the lord and, uh, this is what came out of that.

11:36 – Jaime Luce (Host)
So, all right so, uh, now will you say s’s and d’s, so they know what you’re talking about, what’s an s and what’s a d? Uh, there’s three s’s, three s’s and three d’s. Those know what you’re talking about.

11:45 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
What’s an S and what’s a D? Uh, there’s three S’s, three S’s and three D’s. Those were my points. I don’t know.

11:48 – Jaime Luce (Host)
No, what does the S stand for?

11:50 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
Uh well, they don’t. They’re not all the same. The first ones are sowing, okay, then the others, the D’s, are different. Oh, okay, okay.

11:57 – Jaime Luce (Host)
I didn’t know if it D for different, D for different there you go Okay, so very basic.

12:05 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
If you want to reap, you have to plant. You cannot, in reality, in day to day, you cannot. There’s not going to be a reaping if you don’t plant, so it’s up to us to get it into the ground. So, as one of my coworkers, one of our board members actually, he is always talking about AI, full disclosure. I hate social media, I hate anything new technology. I just I find it, but everybody is about AI. So I thought, well, what is AI? Let’s jump in. And I don’t know if it was Claude or ChatGBT, I don’t know what I went to, but anyway.

12:37
But this is from AI and it says the power of sowing seed, the power of sowing seed, the power of seed sowing lies in the universal principle that what you plant determines what you harvest. We all know that. You don’t plant apple seeds and get an orange grove. So that’s simplified, applying to both physical and spiritual aspects of life, concept draws from agriculture, emphasizing that every action, thought or deed which those things are all seeds has the potential for immense, often multiplied consequences. You do not put one apple seed in the ground and get one apple. We all know that. That’s the power of seed, that’s the supernatural power of what God gives us is that you can plant something small and it can be multiplied, both good and bad seed. A hundred percent.

13:31 – Jaime Luce (Host)
That we are sowing always, all day long. But you have to choose which seed you’re sowing, because you can be sowing and think well, god, I did this, but I’ve planted it. In fact, this came to mind when you were ministering this, because there’s a scripture that says that oh no, master, someone has come in. Your enemy, it says, actually has come in and sown tares among the wheat. So there is, in the crop that comes up, a bounty of both what was good that was planted and that which was bad that was planted. And you don’t get to just pluck up the bad. You have to wait till it’s reaping time to take them at the same time, because if you don’t, the bad will rip out and destroy the good when you try to take it out.

14:40
There’s no separation, is what I’m trying to say. So when you are sowing, you need to think about what you’re sowing. There’s not just good seed, there’s rotten seed, there’s poisonous seed, there’s what’s the word I’m looking for? A contaminated seed. You can be sowing things that, by your neglect of paying attention to it, you can just be constantly sowing to the wrong thing. We need to pay attention to what we’re sowing.

15:16 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
So that was nice and to that point the Bible talks so much about negatively, about commingling. You know it’s not lukewarmness. He doesn’t want. He’d rather be one or the other. But don’t try and do both. You know he always wants pure. He wants something to be in its original state, not commingled. So it doesn’t do any good to plant good some and then bad the rest of the day. It’s going to not be a good harvest. Right, yeah, it diminishes your good harvest.

15:50
Yes, so we all have ambitions, goals and dreams for our future, whether they be financial, relational, physical or spiritual. But they all require the same thing, and that is action. And that speaks to the prayer that you are talking about. Yes, prayer is so, and I will get emotional talking about prayer. Prayer is so powerful.

16:13
We do not understand the power of prayer and that’s why the enemy fights so hard to distract. We live in such a society of distraction that’s probably one of the reasons why I don’t prefer social media is because people can get lost for hours of a day and waste, put bad seed in the ground by just wasting time where God’s wanting to tell you his good plans for you and tell you direction and give you guidance and wisdom, and we’re so distracted by trying to look at other things and look at other people’s lives. We’re going to talk about that and what does God have for you? And so, anyway. So they’ll require the same thing, and that’s action. We cannot expect a harvest if we do not put seed in the ground Right, and so we’ve got to be doing that, and the quicker you get it in the ground, the quicker that harvest will come up. Amen, yeah, and you know what I know.

17:08 – Jaime Luce (Host)
The minute we say seed, if you are a Christian who is a regular church attender, so to speak, you probably think we’re talking about money. We’re not talking about money. This applies to money. I mean it applies, but that’s not what we’re talking about money.

17:19 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
We’re not talking about money. This applies to money form.

17:20 – Jaime Luce (Host)
yeah, yeah, I mean, it applies, but that’s not what we’re talking about. And this first point, before the points that she’s making, is that you will reap what you’ve sown. I mean, you’re going to get the same. That’s why god said when he created it, he created it with its seed inside of itself, because it’s going to reproduce that very same thing. We have to understand this is a principle in every area of life.

17:46
This was why, when I would sow financially into something, I expected God to meet my financial need. I didn’t expect, you know, some people would say, well, he may not give it back to you in money. I don’t believe that I sowed a seed. That particular seed happened to be financial. I’m expecting a financial result from that seed.

18:13
I give to the Lord my tithes, my offerings, my alms to the poor, to whoever he’s telling me to put it. But I am expecting that my purse not be empty, because I’m sowing that the Lord will fill that purse. I won’t have a purse full of holes, as the Bible calls it. But if I’m sowing to the practical needs of somebody, then I’m expecting that when I have need, god will meet my need in those practical means and ways. So we’re talking about life, we’re not talking just about finances. So if you’re already turned off and you’re turned off and you think I don’t want to hear about money, we’re not talking about money. If it applies and you want it to, fine. But just hear us. We’re about to give you some great examples of how this is in your whole life, not not just your, not just your pocketbook. That’s right, amen.

19:05 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
So how I laid this out was, as a a, a point, and then a scripture to go with it, and then a story, because our lives are full of stories. I love stories, so I love the Old Testament. I’m an Old Testament girl, yeah. So point number one. So, with the goal in mind, amen, be intentional. Don’t look at what you don’t have or how empty your field might be right now. Sow for the harvest that you want, and that is principles found in Ecclesiastes 11.1. And this is out of the New Living Translation Send your grain across the seas and in time time, like we’re saying time profits will flow back to you.

19:43
I have a friend I will give her a shout out Christy Rust. She currently lives in Louisiana. I met her when we lived in Arkansas and she was a very close friend of mine. We have nicknames Butterball for each other that goes way back. But she Perfect for Thanksgiving other that goes way back.

20:01
But she was very purposeful. She was a single young adult. We probably were in our mid-20s at this time. I was married, most of her friends were married, so she was feeling that one that was left out, that why is everybody else married and I’m not? But rather than allowing herself to look at her empty field. She looked at the field that she wanted, and so she would purpose every Valentine’s Day to babysit for her married friends and say I’m going to sow into that field. And she did that for years and I am very happy to say that today she is married with two children and a bunch of grandbabies. So she ate of that fruit that she put into that same field.

20:45
So, be intentional. And so, with the goal, with what you in mind, the enemy so often works to so magnify your lack that you feel like God does it love me. Everybody else gets to eat this, but I don’t, don’t believe the lie of the enemy. So, with that in mind, god is not a God, that he is not mocked. What you sow you will reap. That’s his promise. So to your point about if I’m sowing specifically to a specific need what you sow you will reap. So, with that goal in mind, point number two Um. So, with that goal in mind, um. Point number two um.

21:23
So, at the right time and that’s, I think, very apropos to what you’re saying today is um, and and and sometimes we can purpose in our own heart that um, like Jaime was saying, like you know, with our ties, you know there’s a cadence to that. Obviously, when you get paid you tie it off of that. You know when there’s special offerings taken, but then to me the most exciting times for sowing are when you feel a real prompting of the Lord. So right now there’s time, there is a specific time to sow, and and and we can think. But God, even it can, it can get so specific because, like you were saying, time can be so specific. God’s saying want you to give this week? Well, god, it would be better if I gave next week, because next week I get paid and I can juggle this give it when you feel prompted of the Lord. It’s so because he’s wanting to do something special.

22:09 – Jaime Luce (Host)
In that it’s a determined time like uh, it means that there’s a. There is a time that the Lord knows this will produce the crop that is necessary to bless you with. If you sow at the wrong time, you can’t expect to reap a harvest. One of my daughters is starting a little gardening thing in her yard, is starting a little gardening thing in her yard and she kept trying really hard to plant these little carrots and something else. I forget what the other vegetable was, but it was too hot. It was too hot. They just kept dying, everything just kept dying, and it’s finally showing some. It’s cooling down a little bit now and it’s now starting to show some signs of growth. So, but there’s wasted seed though, because that seed that kept dying, she had that seed and now she doesn’t get a crop from that. It died because it wasn’t at the right time. So Right.

23:11 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
Amen. So Ecclesiastes 3, 1 to 2, which you mentioned earlier out of the message, says there is an opportune time to do things, a right time for everything on the earth. Pause. Our precious mama taught us the lesson that if it matters to you, it matters to God. Yes, everything in your life is under the watchful, loving eye of our heavenly father. Yes, that was for somebody, a right time for everything on the earth a right time for birth, another for death, a time to plant and another to reap. And for this one I brought a show and tell item. This is my little bag of seeds and this is a real bag of seeds. Uh, and the story behind this about talking about timing and specific. And then you know, you got.

24:02
I was blessed to be able to take a road trip with my husband last year, I think it was. We went up through, uh, all the northern states and south dakota, montana and all that stuff, and so we were driving through idaho and you saw these vast uh fields, farmer fields, you know where that they’re actually growing stuff, and there are, like they know, this is the time of year you plant this. This is the time of year you plant this. You can’t even the Bible. There was a barley season and there was a wheat season. I mean, that’s so known, such a known thing.

24:32
But this specific seed has a time, and these seeds have to be sown in the month of January. These are beautiful flower seeds that one of the ladies in our church, her sweet mama, miss Esther, brings my mom, these beautiful white flowers. They’re very unique looking, the leaves are beautiful, the blooms are beautiful, and my mom’s always commenting about how pretty these are. And so Esther said well, what you have to do is when the bloom opens, the seeds are inside the bloom, and then she has to go in and she has to scrape out all the seeds out of the bloom, and then you have to keep them and then replant them only in the month of January.

25:15 – Jaime Luce (Host)
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26:15 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
Yeah, very specifically yeah. And taking care of your seed is important. Yeah, right, very specifically yeah, and taking care of your seed is important. And so this bag was given to me two years ago and, as you can see, last year in January came and went and I was like, oh man, I forgot to put those seeds in the ground. So this year I did not have a harvest in January because I did not get the seeds in the ground when they were supposed to. So it’s important. So when the prompting happens of the Lord, be obedient to get that seed in the ground. That’s good. Number three sow with others in mind.

26:51
Ephesians 6, 7, and 8 tells us, with goodwill, doing service as to the Lord and not to men, knowing that whatever good anyone does, he will receive the same from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free. In Luke 6, 31-38 says and as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them. If you love those who love you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what benefit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners to get back the same amount. But love your enemies and do good and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil. Be merciful, even as your father is merciful. So sometimes you know I Not that he will ever see this, but uh, pastor tim delaina, which is the incredible pastor of times square church in new york, I watch him often and obviously, being in new york, he is surrounded by homeless and you can get so benign to it, cold to it, because you just see it so often. And in corona there’s a small population there, you know, and I just got where you hear so many stories of.

28:19
You know they squander money. You know good stewards of it. You don’t know what they’re going to use it for, so I don’t want to give it to them if they’re going to do something that’s going to abuse or harm their bodies or you know. And so you just kind of always know. You know, and I heard Pastor Tim, he just always does, because he’s always sowing seed he’s just always sowing.

28:37
You never know when something’s going to be, the one time that somebody is going to be a life-changing moment, and he takes that opportunity to sow a spiritual seed as well as a financial seed. And no, we have to be wise, hear me, but that’s when the prompting of the Lord is the prompting, saying yeah, but that person is different. And so I’ve even myself looked at those in that kind of need around me. Lord, are you saying to sow seed here, because I’m going to trust you. It doesn’t matter the result of it, it doesn’t matter what they might use it for, they might just need to know that Jesus still loves them that day, and it might not be a life-changing moment, but God’s speaking into their life. It’s not up to you, but the outcome is it’s you to be obedient to put the seed in where God tells you to put the seed in.

29:22
And that reminded me of a story my husband, my sweet husband, whom I love if you’re watching, I love you, kevin Brown, and I joke all the time when we did youth and young adults ministry, and our kids still say it he was a scumbag. Jesus redeems. Praise. God Grew up, christian went wayward and God brought him back, praise God. And then we had some rough, very rough years in our first couple years of marriage. But he’s fantastic now. But when he was getting those moments of surrender to the Lord fully, kind of fully. Okay, god, you can have it all, not pieces, not parts, but all of me.

30:00
One of the last things that was most difficult for him to overcome was finances, and he just felt like it was my money and I’m like look, dude, give it, dude, you know no big deal. And so we were living in Arkansas at the time and a missionary came through and my husband has a deep heart for missions, he’s been to Africa many times. I wondered if we were going to have to live there at some point, but he just loves it and I’ve been there and now I understand why. It’s an incredible, beautiful nation, beautiful people, and I would love to go back. But a missionary came through that was sending supplies over to Africa, and they had the plane, they had the supplies. The last thing they needed was fuel for the flight, and so God was giving that that rain a time.

30:43
Now’s the time to get seed in the ground, and he wanted to, but at the same time his flesh man was struggling so bad and I looked over and he had literally turned flesh red, he was sweating. I’m like, dude, it’s just money, give it, like what’s the big deal, you know? But it was. It was a surrender to the Lord in that moment and it was his first what I would call big offering. I think it was $1,000.

31:05
And I’m like, just release it Because I knew God. If God’s telling you to do it, that means he’s trying to push a blessing to you. That’s part of seed too is God’s trying to get something to you. If you’ll release the small, he can get you the big, the multiplied. And so he gave it. You know it was great. I was like, oh good, yeah, maybe we passed that test. And then several weeks later we got the news that that plane had crashed and never made its destination. And of course that was hurtful and you were, you know, hurt that the supplies didn’t get there. But I knew that had no bearing on the seed?

31:40 – Jaime Luce (Host)
Yes, that’s good.

31:41 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
That it doesn’t matter what the end was. Kevin was obedient to get that seed in the ground. Yes and so, and we saw a harvest of that multiplied over in our lives. God’s been so faithful and so good and big, audacious type of blessings in our life that only come from God and so it doesn’t matter. Don’t look at that, just be obedient when God tells you for those promptings.

32:03 – Jaime Luce (Host)
You know that’s a great point. So many times we think that by giving we’re supposed to control the outcome. Yep, you don’t get to control the outcome, right? No farmer gets to control the outcome of their harvest. You are waiting on weather. You don’t know if you’re going to have a good season of rain. You don’t know if drought is coming. You don’t know the condition of your soil. You don’t know if locusts are on the way. You don’t know, we don’t know.

32:38
So we plant the seed, because that’s what we’re called to do. We plant, we plant seeds and for somebody and there may be more than just one of you out there you’re concerned about your children and you have sown into their lives and you’re trying to control the outcome, the decisions they make. I’m talking about grown children, I’m not talking about little ones. You have some control there, but you need to know I am just supposed to do what God has called me to do and he will, in turn, take care of the outcome, because you might see a drought before you see a harvest. You might see a downpour of rain that washes away your seed when you were needing the heat to come and grab hold of that. You might need a season of roots to go down, and so you’re not seeing any growth, whatever the season is, whatever you’re trying to accomplish by your seed, you have to understand your job is to plant. That’s your job. It is God’s job to bring the harvest. So to Jenny’s point.

33:57
Part of the lesson for Kevin was not that I gave this and I got to see the result I wanted by giving this. I gave it and God will take care of the outcome. But my seed, when given in obedience, when sown in righteousness, when done, however I’m supposed to do, that God will. He can’t lie. He’s not a man that he would lie and he says I will not be mocked. Whatever I sow, I’m going to reap. That’s his word. Either you believe it or you don’t. So this applies to every bit of seed that you’ve sown.

34:35
This is good news, because if you are somebody who has been sowing a long time to something, you’ve been given selflessly to something a long time. You’ve been given time and sacrifice and you know blood, sweat and tears to whatever it is that you’ve been doing for God for a long time and you haven’t seen the results yet. Don’t you wait? Don’t worry I’ve heard my aunt say this a million times, but you can’t be the Holy Spirit. You’re not the Holy Spirit. You do your part, the Holy Spirit does his. God will do it, and the scripture is, and the promise is that we will reap if we faint, not you. Just stay in doing what God tells you to do. Stay in doing what God tells you to do and he will make sure that the outcome or the reaping that you need to see in that area will come. Amen.

35:26 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
I just thought of this right now. One of God’s names is Lord of the Harvest. Yes, he is the Lord of the Harvest. That’s right. So, regardless of all the circumstances, he’s the one that’s going to dictate what the harvest looks like Right.

35:37 – Jaime Luce (Host)
He is the Lord of the Harvest. Amen. He’s the one that’s going to dictate what the harvest looks like Right.

35:39 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
He’s the Lord of the harvest. Amen, amen, all right. Point number four, getting into the Ds Don’t be careless with your seed. Galatians 6-7 says stop being deceived. God is not ridiculed. A person harvests whatever he plants.

35:55
While we lived in Arkansas, this is my second visual aid, this bag. If you can see it I don’t know if you can see it really well this is what is all around us right now in this season. These are pumpkin seeds. Right, I don’t like pumpkin seeds. Some people eat them, I don’t care for them, but anyway.

36:09
But this reminds me of a story I had a friend’s mom that when we lived in Arkansas, I joked and said that her name was. I don’t remember the mom’s name, I’m so sorry. My friend’s name was Donetta and I said in Arkansas, in the South, when they want to change a man’s name into a female’s name, they just put Etta at the end of it. I knew a Donetta, a Johnetta, it’s just funny, but anyway. So Donetta’s mom. It was at a speaking at a women’s event at our church out there and she had. I don’t even remember really what the whole message was, but this image stuck so much in my mind Literally that’s probably been 30 years ago that I heard that it’s been a long time. So that’s, I mean, it was such a true, the seed went in. The seed went in, yes, and it is bearing fruit today. Yeah, and so she everybody in Arkansas, in the South they decorate for fall right. So you drive around all the neighborhoods and everybody’s got pumpkins and hail bays and scarecrows.

37:11 – Jaime Luce (Host)
Hail bays, you said the same thing that I said. Isn’t it a bale of hay, is it?

37:17 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
a hay bale, whatever you call it, the big straw thing, we backwards that shows Difficult to clean up after, but big baskets of mums, you know, it’s just very, you know all that kind of stuff. So she was one and she was a beautiful decorator. Her home was gorgeous and she had a front porch, which is also also common in the South and she had put but everybody out there well at the time used real pumpkins for decorations and stuff. So she had pumpkins out on her porch and time went on, season was over, christmas was coming, she got busy and, as pumpkins do, if ever you’ve seen, you know they decay, right, they start giving away, and so, rather than, and it somehow spilled open and so she didn’t have the right tools to clean it up, so she just kind of kicked it over and shoved everything over into the planter that was right off the porch and didn’t think a thing more about it, until the next harvest season came around and she was astonished to look down in her flower bed and there was now growing a pumpkin patch. So all those pumpkin seeds that she was careless with got put into her garden.

38:28
Like you were saying earlier, sometimes they’ll grow together, yeah, and the unintended harvest was coming up, yeah, and so so often we don’t want to deal with something that maybe is rotten or stinky or is out of season. I don’t have time for that right now. I’m too busy, god. I’m too busy to pray, too busy to be in church and do the things that I know they’re going to feed me spiritually and be connected and put myself in a place that I can hear from you I’ll do that later, I’ll do that later. In a place that I can hear from you. I’ll do that later, I’ll do that later. And we sweep it under the rug or we sweep it off the porch and we don’t realize those are seeds.

39:04
Seeds are not just financial. They are our time, they are the things that we offer to God. We are meant to be a living sacrifice, as Romans tells us, romans 12.1. Every day we should be living, god. What are you wanting me to sow today in my harvest or in my field? To reap a harvest? And so we have to be very careful that we don’t just dismiss and think it won’t have an effect.

39:28
Those seeds we’re planting all day long are seeds of words to people. I believe I brought this out and Kevin and I were just. We celebrated our 34th wedding anniversary yesterday. Oh yeah, um, and I was just giving him a kiss goodnight, saying thank you for our wonderful life together and so happy that we have a peaceful home and and a loving home. But we’ve spent a lot of time making that home.

39:57
And if you sow discord into your home, if you sow ugly words into your home, into your children, if you speak words of tearing them down and why aren’t you good enough and why don’t you do this? And looking at somebody else’s field, saying why can’t my field look like that? You know, and shaming your husband or shaming your kids, you will eat that harvest. You will eat that harvest and you’re wanting it to be beautiful and come up with these beautiful flowers and have these blooms and have all this great stuff. But what you’re putting in is not what you’re going to be reaping and what you’re going to be eating. So we must be very, very, very careful with our seed and what we do with it.

40:35 – Jaime Luce (Host)
Amen. That’s so good, especially, just that’s so practical. This is your everyday life, the relationships in your everyday life and what you take time to care for, what you make time to cultivate. You know it’s our words. What are we building? What are we doing? What are we building? What are we doing? And so many times we don’t.

40:59
I think it might be Joyce Meyer who was kind of famous for saying this and everyone saying it after her. But you need to listen to what you’re. You have to think about what you’re thinking about. So I think it’s more than just what you’re thinking. Think about what you’re saying. Like it would be a good idea to walk around with your phone on record listening to yourself. Go back and listen to yourself and hear with a different perspective.

41:29
It’s odd to hear your voice on a recording. Anyway, it doesn’t sound the same to you as it does in your own head. When you hear it away from you, it doesn’t sound the same. I’m always like that’s me, it doesn’t sound like me, and yet somebody else knows that voice. That’s what it sounds like to somebody else. That’s what they’re used to, that’s the sound they hear and we need to be cognizant of what is the sound that others hear from my life.

42:05
Is the sound that others hear from my life? Are they hearing the criticisms and they’re not hearing the picture you have in your head and the beauty of what you’re trying to think that you want? They’re hearing the actual seed. They’re seeing the actual seed. Is this a pumpkin seed? Is this a beautiful flower seed? You know, whatever is coming out of our mouths matters. Our words are seeds, especially to the closest relationships to you your spouse, if you’re married, and your children, if you are a parent. Parent, you have to be so careful about what you want to produce. Think about what you’re wanting to produce. Isn’t that part of the first point you made? Like, you have to really think, be intentional. You know, before you open your mouth, keep it shut long enough to think through the process. Is this what I really want, said right now?

43:01 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
Do I want to reap?

43:03 – Jaime Luce (Host)
from this. Right, you know, or is there? Maybe it’s something that needs to get said, but the way that I say it can be the difference of what I get back, of what I reap from that. I can say something with a tone of love and concern right, I can say things with uh that are truth, and it may even sting, but I can say it in a way that comes from my heart as truth and and it’s concern and care. Or it can come across sharp, its concern and care, or it can come across sharp. It can come across intentional to bring pain. It can come across in a way that is deceptive and manipulative. How I sow, that will determine how I reap. That that’s the actuality of the seed. So we must be very intentional about the kind of seed we’re sowing and how we want to reap from that If you want to reap kindness, you have to sow kindness.

44:07 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
Yes, I mean, it’s so true. If I don’t want somebody gossiping about me, then I can’t sow seeds of gossip.

44:15 – Jaime Luce (Host)
Right.

44:16 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
If I don’t want to eat seeds or eat a harvest of judgment, then I’m not going to put seeds of judgment in the ground, right? If I don’t want to eat seeds or eat a harvest of judgment, then I’m not going to put seeds of judgment in the ground.

44:24
I mean it’s so far reaching what we do. Yes, this was one of the stories that I shared, and it goes along with this is that when we’ve started our church 20 years ago, now celebrating 20 years this year, it’s wild. I know when our family felt like we were supposed to be doing this and we were all kind of hearing from the Lord. We were being very careful about that because this was not on anybody’s radar to ever do this, and so and we took it seriously this is not.

44:53 – Jaime Luce (Host)
We didn’t just flippantly like no, we’re going to go and start a church.

44:56 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
It’s not for the faint of heart people. So we were being very careful and when we had the confirmation and we knew that, okay, god’s saying this, we just pulled away as a family and just said, okay, if it’s like they said, unless God builds the house, they labor in vain. Who build it? Either God, you’re going to build it, and if it’s you, it’ll grow and stay, and if it’s not, it’ll die, and it should if it’s not from you. So we just were really kind of in reality about that and so we just started that’s even a biblical principle.

45:25 – Jaime Luce (Host)
I know I forget what his name was. It might have been Gamaliel who said listen, quit going after these disciples, because if it’s born of God you can’t stop it Right, but if it’s born of men it’ll die.

45:39 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
Yeah, they were following somebody else. It’s like the disciples were getting all flustered, like it was them. Yeah, you don’t have to worry about it If.

45:44 – Jaime Luce (Host)
God’s doing it. You’ve got nothing to worry about Right. It’s when God does it, God does it, it’s God Right. But if I do it, what good is I does that, you know?

46:00 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
and even if I can, get it to last in in this lifetime it’s not eternal or total effect.

46:05
So it doesn’t there’s no, it’ll burn up in the wood. We had people reach out to us and say you know what are you guys doing? Where are you meeting? And we would say this is what we’re doing, this is where we’re going. If you’d like to come join us, great.

46:23
But we were very, very, very purposeful to not call anyone and try and get those disparaging words. We didn’t try and pull anybody else’s sheep and I remember saying out loud to the family I don’t want to sow those seeds into the foundation of our church, that I don’t want somebody else trying to do that to us. I’m not going to do it to any other pastor. And if God calls people into where they’re supposed to be, he sets them in a body. So if they’re supposed to be with us, they’ll find their way here, and if not, then they’re supposed to be in a body somewhere else. So even in ministry I felt that prompting Even in ministry, if you’re a minister out there, what seeds are you sowing into your ministry?

47:05
If God’s in it, it will live and it will flourish and God will meet your needs. Don’t look to man, don’t try and pull people that have money, that you think have money are going to be big donors. We’ve watched God supernaturally provide in our church over the 20 years Incredibly, and so if God builds the house it’ll last and if it doesn’t let it fall, we don’t need anything else. False in our world today, so much wasted.

47:34 – Jaime Luce (Host)
Yeah.

47:35 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
So much wasted seed. So much wasted seed and seeds. Are your efforts too, your time, your peace, your strength. So much wasted, yeah, I mean. And you can’t go back.

47:45 – Jaime Luce (Host)
Time is the only commodity that’s worth anything. Yeah, because everything else you can get more money. If you run out of money, you can get more things. Everything. That is natural. Yeah, you can just get more of that. You can never get back time. Once time is gone, it’s gone, and it’s so valuable. The scripture says that our life is like a vapor. I had a pastor once who, to illustrate the point, brought a can of air freshener on the stage. That was the aerosol kind and he’d say this is your life and you would see the little. And then it was gone. Just all these little, you know shots of the aerosol. That’s your life, that’s all you’ve got. Just a vapor, just a vapor. It’s just gone here today, gone tomorrow. It’s just gone. It didn’t even last. I mean, you won’t remember it, don’t know where it fell, has no impact, you don’t know anything about it, you can’t see it. That’s what we have. We have this moment, we have our time, and it is so valuable. Don’t waste your time. Yeah, don’t waste your time.

48:59 – Jenny Brown (Guest)
Get your seed in the ground at the right time. That’s right. There’s an appointed time.

49:03 – Jaime Luce (Host)
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